Crying over a hamburger

So yesterday I was at Pepper Lunch Shangri-La, having merienda with our maid and driver, when I saw on Twitter that Carlos Celdran was found guilty of “offending religious feelings.”

I read online that Carlos can go to jail between “2 months and 21 days to a maximum of one year, 1 month and 11 days.”
I have no idea why the numbers are like that.
All I know is I started to cry while eating this double hamburger (shameless plug).

Because I'm spoiled

“The last time I cried over a hamburger was at Brother’s Burger, when I heard that Gilda (Cordero-Fernando) had a heart attack,” I told my friend Jude over the phone.
“So stop eating hamburger,” Jude curtly said.
Jude had visited Carlos in jail when he was arrested last September 30, 2010.


Carlos Celdran

I believe the night he spent in jail was enough. Carlos apologized. He has been banned from bringing his tours around the churches. Don’t know if he was excommunicated and I don’t want to bug him to ask.


Carlos facebook

Yesterday I spent a great deal of time ranting on Twitter and even arguing with some righteous Catholics with four followers. I consider myself deeply Catholic even though I don’t go to Mass regularly. I like to think that Jesus, while on earth, would have drawn people to himself, instead of repel. So why do some righteous Catholics tend to alienate others instead of inspire?
By nighttime I had a feeling of remorse and used an app to erase more than 2,000 tweets on my timeline, and with that, I went to bed.
So now that even the President thinks Carlos should be pardoned, I think we can rest assured, Carlos will be free.

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  • http://www.jamesburgfamilydentistry.com/ Monica

    Is he free now?

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  • lolaproblems

    Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time. The law is the law, is the law, no matter how archaic. One can’t choose what law to follow if it doesn’t suit their preference. 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=644340086 Philip Nazareno

    While I completely acknowledge the outrage that a lot of people have with regard to the decision against Carlos Celdran, I urge everyone to be a little more objective and circumspect when reviewing the decision of the Metropolitan Trial Court.  

    Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code does provide that the crime of “Offending Religious Feelings” is committed by “anyone who, in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony, shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.” In the Celdran case, the judge only had to look at whether or not 3 elements were present during the “Damaso placard incident” which I will refer hereafter as, the “Incident.”

    First, was there an act committed by Mr. Celdran?  Yes – the Incident. 

    Second, was the act committed inside a place devoted to religious worship OR during the celebration of a religious ceremony?  Yes, the act was committed at the Manila Cathedral — a place devoted to religious worship.  

    Third, was the subject act notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful?  I believe that this was the critical issue in this legal proceeding.

    In the 1939 case of People v. Jose Baes (G.R. No. L-46000, May 25, 1939), the Supreme Court was faced with the issue of determining whose feelings should be taken into consideration in the prosecution of a criminal case of “Offending Religious Feelings.”

    The act in question in the Baes case was a religious funeral procession of a Protestant religion which passed through the grounds of a Catholic Church without the permission of the latter’s parish priest.  The Catholic parish priest filed a case of “Offending Religious Feelings” against the leader of the procession stating that he and his parishioners felt that their religious feelings were offended when followers of another religion entered their parish grounds to perform the said funeral procession.

    In tackling the issue as to whose feelings must be shown to have been offended in a crime of “Offending Religious Feelings”, the Supreme Court declared that:

    “(W)hether or not the act complained of is offensive to the religious feelings of the Catholics is a question of fact which must be judged only according to the feelings of the Catholics and not those of other faithful ones, for it is possible that certain acts may offend the feelings of those who profess a certain religion, while not otherwise offensive to the feelings of those professing another faith.”

    This means that, in deciding the case of Carlos Celdran, the Judge had to take into consideration the feelings of the Catholic faithful inside Manila Cathedral during the time of the Incident.  

    In order to be found guilty, it only takes 1 person – 1 witness to categorically state that he or she was notoriously offended by the action of the accused.  In Mr. Celdran’s case, the prosecution presented a handful of witnesses who so testified that their “religious feelings were notoriously offended.”

    The Judge really had no other choice but to find the accused guilty.

    HOWEVER, I believe that there is a “freedom of expression” issue here.  Freedom of Expression is the right of a person to publicly express or communicate his or her opinions or ideas.  It is a sacred right enshrined in the Bill of Rights provision of our Constitution.  It is likewise recognized as a basic human right under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    So why did the Metropolitan Trial Judge decide to convict Mr. Celdran?  Because the law which makes Offending Religious Feelings a crime is still a valid law.  It may be archaic, outdated, outmoded, antiquated — BUT it is still law.  There is a legal maxim which goes, “Dura lex sed lex” which, in English, is translated to, “The law may be harsh but it is the law.”  

    As I said, I understand the outrage people have.  However, I do believe that the outrage should not be directed to the Judge but towards our Legislature for not amending or abolishing an anachronistic law which may have dire implications to one’s constitutionally guaranteed freedom of expression (it must be noted, though, that the right of “freedom of expression” is not absolute and that a person’s right of expression is tempered by certain laws, for instance, laws against slander, libel, and intellectual property infringement).

    Unfortunately for Mr. Celdran, our procedural rules do not usually allow Trial Courts to pass upon the constitutionality of laws.  This responsibility falls under the exclusive function and responsibility of our Supreme Court.  

    Should Mr. Celdran raise the constitutionality of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code as being violative of the Freedom of Expression provision of our Bill of Rights?  Yes, I believe he should.  BUT I also think that the Legislature MUST take time to review ancient laws such as the crime of “Offending Religious Feelings.”

    It must be noted that the Baes Decision of the Supreme Court was not a unanimous one.  Justice Jose Laurel’s Dissenting Opinion was brilliantly written. Invoking the Spanish legal scholar, Viado, Justice Laurel wrote:

    “I believe that an act, in order to be considered as notoriously offensive to the religious feelings, must be one directed against religious practice or dogma or ritual for the purpose of ridicule; the offender, for instance, mocks, scoffs at or attempts to damage an object of religious veneration; it must be abusive, insulting and obnoxious”

    Using Justice Laurel’s opinion and applying it on the Celdran case, Mr. Celdran could not have possibly committed the crime because his action was never for the purpose of ridicule.  He never mocked, scoffed at, or attempted to damage an object of religious veneration.

    However, again unfortunately, Justice Laurel’s opinion was merely a dissenting opinion — one which was not shared by the majority of the Supreme Court.

    Congress should take heed of Justice Laurel’s grave warning towards the end of his Dissenting Opinion when he questioned the narrow-minded interpretation of the law:

    “(If) the gravity or leniency of the offense would hinge on the subjective characterization of the act from the point of view of a given religious denomination or sect, and in such a case, the application of the law would be partial and arbitrary, withal, dangerous x x x.”

    This is definitely not the last we will hear of this case.  Undoubtedly, Mr. Celdran’s lawyers (led by my schoolmate at Ateneo Law, Marlon Manuel), will raise this matter all the way to the Supreme Court and our jurisprudence will be all the more richer because of it.

    I wish Carlos Celdran well.

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    Jude Lopez Mancuyas
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    *nosebleed* Tissue nga, yaya!

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    teadrinker
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    “Third, was the subject act notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful?  I believe that this was the critical issue in this legal proceeding.”
    - I am a Catholic. I may not be as zealous as other Catholics, but I consider myself among the faithful. Did the Court consider only the feelings of the faithful who were present during the act? If not, I don’t see the act as “notoriously offensive”.

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    Hi teadrinker.  Unfortunately, in the case at hand, the Trial Court only had to consider the “religious feelings” of the people who were present inside the Manila Cathedral when the incident occurred.  Again, the dire warning of Justice Laurel as stated in his Dissenting Opinion in the Baes case should make us all pause and think:  “(If) the gravity or leniency of the offense would hinge on the subjective characterization of the act from the point of view of a given religious denomination or sect, in such a case, the application of the law would be partial and arbitrary, withal, dangerous x x x.”

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    teadrinker
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    I agree with Justice Laurel.

  • neutralistic

    If God can forgive, so can…

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  • http://www.facebook.com/wltrrbls Walter Robles

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    like that Celdran puts the spotlight on these issues, but it doesn’t
    change the fact that he’s an arrogant prick. In this case, he went
    against a bigger prick and lost.

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    CVS Reply:

    you also sound like one

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    hew me
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    dead

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    Walter Robles
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    Well we all do at some point, especially taking into consideration who’s hearing the things we say. Most of us, however, don’t end up in prison for sounding like a prick.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KILXNBGDRTQUJS7JVUTYVGELXY Joven

    Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than going to McDonald’s makes you a hamburger. (Keith Green)

    This reminder applies to priests, religious leaders and us, ordinary mortals, alike…

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  • http://pinkandmints.com/ Ays

    i’m sure he will have a lot of support from the public (me included).

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  • hiddendragon

    Tx for reminding us that it was a  meeting, not the Mass that CC interrupted. 

    Would it help resolve the issue if he got convicted (because the law is the law) and then the courts immediately forgive him, like GMA did to Erap, then our lawmakers start working on changing the law? Sometimes I like Carlos Celdran, sometimes I don’t like him. But let us be rational and humane about the whole thing – to him, to the Church and to all the Filipino women who suffer the most from our indifference and neglect to their ignorance and helplessness.

    Let’s look at the big picture. Philippine ‘supposedly civil’ society has become too Catholicized. Beauty queens thank the Lord. The Chief Justice thanks the Lord, Prior to that, the ousted Chief Justice invoked the Lord for his cause. Anybody and anybody, by invoking the Lord assumes a stamp of righteousness and legitimacy. Any government agency celebrating its anniversary say the Mass in their premises and clasp each other’s hands when saying The Lord’s Prayer – the same hands that took the bribe from a Filipino citizen who lined up for hours yesterday to file some procedurally unnecessary documentation.

    Supermarkets and malls now impose the Angelus on shoppers who have the luck of being around at 6pm. (I don’t buy my fabcon at Sta. Maria dela Strada, so why should I say the Angelus when I’m in Savemore?). 

    Now tell me, if you were a devout Buddhist, a Muslim or a Hindu, who happens to be a Filipino citizen and living around here, what would you feel?

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    CelebGPS
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    Let us not forget that this situation is not unique to the Philippines and certainly not unique to Catholicism.

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  • http://twitter.com/teadrinker05 teadrinker

    May pag-asa pa. The court that handed down the decision was the Manila Metropolitan Trial Court. May Court of Appeals pa and Supreme Court. I hope he gets pro bono legal help. It could be quite costly. Not to mention tedious and time-consuming. Irritating, too, if not resolved for a long period of time.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4M4JWNTTD545QFMJLPGZ7D5YY Ardita

    I think it would go down in history better if Carlos Celdran accepts the consequences of his action and serve jail time. After all, if he really believes that what he did was worth it and invaluable to the opening up of the debate on RH Bill, then, he will see going to jail as nothing. 

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  • acidspew

    funny how most of the hateful, bigoted and incendiary vitriol I see in comments about the rh issue and this are from people who happen to claim that god is on their side.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KNKXYX3R2ZBJDDJ766UIIXZVPY blithe_spirit_00

    Carlos Celdran’s crime was NOT for expressing his opinion, as some righteous people claim. His crime was for disrupting an on-going church service. 

    It was the management of the Manila Cathedral that sued him, NOT the CBCP nor the Catholic Church in general.

    “FREEDOM” is relative. Your freedom ends when you violate someone else’s freedom. Mr. Celdran is free to express his opinion but he is not free to intrude into a church service attended by people who wants to pray.

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     wow.  I didn’t know that the people that ran the manila cathedral are not members of the cbcp nor the catholic church.  thanks for clearing that up.

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    blithe_spirit_00
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    please don’t be *******. you know fully well what i mean. The Manila Cathedral administrators, while members of the Catholic Church, do not speak for the Church as a whole, nor of the CBCP as a collective body of bishops. And they do not have to seek approval for matters that concern the running of the church.

    Please refer to this article on the Inquirer: Bishops have long forgiven Celdran, says CBCP exec
    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/349223/bishops-have-long-forgiven-celdran-says-cbcp-exec

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    acidspew Reply:

     wow, were you cussing?  no surprises there…

    and just to be clear: so are you implying that the cbcp is not condoning what those rebellious ragtag group of mayhem seekers working in manila cathedral did? 

    because from what I learned in catholic school, washing one’s hands does not mean you’re not involved. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=503421585 Mary Dittrich

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10152664403600413&set=a.10150314632795413.564509.89494795412&type=1&theater

    I saw this photo on facebook and it reminded me of staid religion has become in the Philippines.  Maybe people would be less critical of the Catholic church if they accepted criticism instead of acting aggressively towards it. 

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  • gusm

    The blending of religion, laws and politics in this country
    is ridiculous. The Catholic Church always interject (openly and aggressively)
    in the shaping of our laws in this country (even though there is supposed to be
    separation between religion and the state), yet there is no punishment for that. Our laws and our government are
    confused and schizophrenic.

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  • http://www.got2wearshades.typepad.com/blog bree hatfield

    Not only there are “righteous Catholics” but there are so many of them thriving in each religion, and that’s what people call “religious hypocrites.” Righteousness is not about religion or Catholicism. Whatever religion or faith one believes in, the essence of the truth of that faith or religion is by the way one leads and conducts his life and the trust he puts on his Supreme God. Even if one religiously follow all the doctrines and rules of a religion, say for example, attending a Catholic mass every day or every Sunday, doesn’t make him righteous. We can only be righteous by the unmerited gift of forgiveness and love of God through our Savior Jesus Christ, by not only admiring him or believing in Him, but taking up our cross to follow Him. Righteousness is something we cannot achieve because we humans are all imperfect, only the blood of Jesus Christ’s and his forgiveness can make us righteous.

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  • http://twitter.com/passdatmeth hew me

    dead at ”offending religious feelings”
    that’s so ridiculous

    that law is stupid as f*ck

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  • http://twitter.com/CelebGPS CelebGPS

    Ms. C, I understand where you’re coming from ’cause he’s your friend.

    Based on what I know about the case, I do believe he has to serve time because he did violate a law. Those who say that the verdict is against free speech got it wrong. I think this article explained it well http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2013/01/why-carlos-celdran-should-go-to-jail-for-his-2010-damaso-stunt/

    Also, pwede na lang ba ang sorry when someone commits a mistake? I don’t think so.

    Imagine if the Damaso act was done in a mosque, I am sure almost everyone will cry foul and will say that it was against peaceful worship.

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    CVS Reply:

    how long do you think he should spend in jail?

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    KUMAGCOW Reply:

    This time naman Ms C he’s got 14 followers LOL

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    CelebGPS
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    Oh please! So now, you’re branding anyone against you as a “righteous Catholic”? Did I even say anything that warrants that comment?

    FYI, I am pro-RH and I also criticize the Catholic church.

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    theIrrelevant Reply:

    mr. celdran himself may need this jail time to reflect, be a better person and influence his friends to become better human beings themselves. 
    STET.

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    CelebGPS
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    I believe he had good intentions in mind. He just made a wrong decision; bad judgment on his part. 

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    CelebGPS
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    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t his sentence under probationary law? Which means he probably doesn’t even need to go to jail if approved for probation.

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    Lia Reply:

    I have to agree with you. I understand Carlos Celdran, I understand what he was trying to do, I am also pro-RH. I just think there is a proper forum for a protest. I am a Catholic, and even though I tune out when the priest starts spewing off anti-RH spiels during homily, I will not appreciate it if someone blatantly disrupts Mass.

    I do think that the jail term is over the top, and would alienate more Catholics from the Church. Community service perhaps?

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    CVS Reply:

    fyi it wasn’t a mass he disrupted. it was a meeting inside a church

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    CelebGPS
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    It’s weird that no one knew (except for the priests) exactly what was happening. Mr. Celdran wasn’t sure either from what I remember. He thought it was a mass then later on said maybe it wasn’t. I read it was an ecumenical service. True?

    However, Article 133 does not really care about what was going on since it states that it will punish any individual who  “in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.”

  • http://themisterbaks.wordpress.com/ Nikko Panti

    Natawa ako dun sa “some righteous Catholics with four followers.” Sinong followers niya? yung 4 members ng CBCP? Lols!

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